What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. You are right IterateCGI it would be terrible for the photo realistic 3D models however if you think about it not that many 3D artists create things in that style and in some cases are capable of doing that especially some of the newbies. Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). 3D Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model ma, ma, obj, and fbx TurboSquid : , , 3D . IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ 2. I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. If you are doing really bad with sales they let you do whatever you want but if you are doing well they step in and make things difficult. The rewords for selling objects from others could for example be 1 CGcredit for tier 1, 2 for tier2, 3 for tier3, 4 for tier4 and so on. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. (2034950) 3D In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Then I contacted Eduardas and Mantas who refused to remove the rating, I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. It is pretty awesome!!! Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. Hmm, i went to your profile and i see no negative feedback. Brittney Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. Also don't forget that people sell their photos and posters too. My friend didn't get any support. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. Closed my Ts account because it was completely useless and obsolete. Why should the artist suffer? This is a bit OT, but although I obviously ain't a squidguild member, I always try to design objects that are "checkmate" compliant to be sure that my models are OK, and I also beta test the .OBJ version in a lot of other applications that LW to be sure that they upload without hassle) I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. 3dsky.org2. I did not know about that. On Ts we get served for extreme large cost and rather badly frankly said. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. I was 2 times victim of credit card fraud on Ts, never happened on CGt so far. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I think the CGT does an amazing job of bringing people together! I'm done with them. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. I have been the victim repeatedly on TS. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. That's just an easy question to answer 1. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. I think this computer graphics industry just needs a well known and established hub specific to our profession, and one that is being run with good core principals like we see it here on CGt. I stumbled across the same issues! taken offline. In regards to product awareness and marketing it is also nice to have some special user cases to show off, there is no room to collect user case data in the Ts model. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. This is why: :). Then we're all back at Square one again. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. So the wonderful conversion work/time spend of this individual could have helped him to get a complete refund, and the two others, (hoe I have send off here) would also have been helped whit a nice maya file, and I would have sold at least two more models (Everyone would benefit). Pleas just stand your ground, we need people coming in not leaving out. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. CGtrader has already surpassed Turbosquid in every Rank, and it has +1 million visits too: https://www.similarweb.com/website/cgtrader.com/?competitors=turbosquid.com, If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. This is from my own personal experience. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. Animated Camel 3D Model 13. Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. It takes way too long to put up any files. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? 3D Model characters people woman This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character It has been sculpted and optimized for animation and game engines with a clean topology. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! Every vendor who is exclusive is losing money and customers. Ts went head on and contacted me (I was probably among list of targeted folks at that time, Ts previously also contacted me to make some shady deals which I rejected), now they requested me to lower my prices according to new price grantee model. How about Negotiated price? For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. Payment Method I can see how 3D modeling and 3D printing can be connected, but even that has to have a clear border for the customer. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. @tomislavveg, on the one hand i agree with you about that, but on the other hand if i would be looking for models i would almost certainly choose TS as my first choice and most likely as a last one before buying. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. 4. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. [http://www.google.com google5 ] Hi there, just want to ask about the artstation store, do they have a condition of not selling on other store? When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. Payment Method ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). What's lacking? Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. Same for me, here. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. Now if this individual was for real I would have loved to contact him and ask If he would like to give me that converted file in exchange for every dollar he paid for the model. If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. I have been studying their website from a buyers perspective thoroughly and I have noticed that; 1. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. My current store on CGTrader includes numerous items that were deemed to be infringing upon GW IP (link below). Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. But I think that CheckMate was especially created to bring artists to exclusivity, rather than promote quality. just 2 years ago still existed. Yep.. If a model you like does not have a suitable file format, be sure to see whether the designer offers free file conversions for the model. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. Some points for and against. google3 So if I am looking after regular CG models, afters a few minutes search, my logical choice is not to search on CGTrader but rather on "old-fashioned" sites. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. Advertising? @interate CGI . TS going down. Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. In place already. I think we as sellers can do a lot to make cgtrader more interesting for buyers. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. If you are a buyer you don't have a lot of time to find what you want especially if you are buying on behalf of your company. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. Animated Lion 3D Model 14. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). Gumroad. 3. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget.
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