James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. Went for a bike ride earlier today. It means sometimes were not actually commentating from the finish line because the Tour de France is so huge theres about 8,000 people attached to the Tour. Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. The man, the myth, the chosen son. Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. It is not so bad if they are in front because the rider can tell the motorbike to go away, but if it is trailing the rider and the rider comes off, there is always the possibility of impact. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. Kirby has however found his own distinctive and unique style which has brilliantly worked for him all these years. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. The Vuelta a Espana used to be the worst of the Grand Tours because theyd have transitions day of 250km across a desert. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. I'm not sure if they have forgotten about the rule, or if it was always just advisory. Plus the the week's top tech news, in: Flying Tom Pidcock wins Strade Bianche, in: Cyclists call on council to reconsider unsafe diversion, in: Call for Scottish safety portal that would "deliver justice", in: Campaigners: Remove pedestrian vs cyclist conflict, in: Highway Code changes haven't helped cyclists, Near Miss of the Day 853: Driver of lorry urging cyclists to Please take extra care near this vehicle fined for close pass (includes swearing), Continental unveils the "strongest" and "fastest" ever Grand Prix 5000 tyre models, Brompton boss frustrated to be fighting "war of attrition" against rip-off rivals, Remove conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, urge campaigners in wake of manslaughter case, Have bike tech wars turned cycling into Formula 1? I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. As is seen in most cases, the primary action of any game takes place during the outset and ending parts. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, - Sir Gary Verity steps down from Welcome to Yorkshire for health reasons after "errors of judgement" with his expenses, -Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), -Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. We dont want this man commentating. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. The Tour de Suisse is traditionally one of the last big races before the Tour de France. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. He is now only four short. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. ), there is a thread in the. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby and cycling legend Sean Kelly reacted like the viewers at home - at first incredibly concerned, then mightily relieved. When Cavendish won again on stage 14, Kittel just fell to pieces emotionally. Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. It's garnering quite a few sarcastic responses on Twitter Yep, I regularly cycle to MacDonalds, get a load of food, then cycle to the off license, get some beer, and then cycle to a lay by or car park and spread it around the place. As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. I've also been known to drag washing machines behind the bike and throw them down embankments, along with piles of grass clippings, black bags of household rubbish and several hubcaps. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. and clearly was totally clueless. From the Eurosports studios in London, covering the tour is not the same as waiting at the finish line. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. OK. And then, we wait. Help us to make it better. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. It is all kinds of stuff. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. Would like to cancel eurosport but it's the only way to watch the classics (legitimately at least). Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc Hosted by Duncan Steer Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In Radio Days Events Sports NOV 24, 2021 London live show preview! Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. I am having this problem too. i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. join Outside+. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. Every stage of the Tour de France LIVE on British Eurosport HD. All rights reserved. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. Quite often you are talking while being handed a note, being spoken to by the director, and listening to race radio at the same time as well, says Kirby. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. Win! Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. he's saving his energy. What blasphemy is this? And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. The walls do move when they pile in too. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. Once its out there youre done, so youll just have to forgive me if I make the odd gaffe. My Ultimate Commuter, rebuilding her at the moment, everything external. We had a heated debate about the incident and then the person drove away. because there wuld be an uprising in the country. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! Join Outside+ to get complete access to exclusive content on VeloNews, training plans for road and gravel, and more. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. I speak no language other than English. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! London live show preview! You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. When actually its just hand-written sheet of notes to recall from.. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. Or at least diminished. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. What is the point? And, one can understand the enthusiasm that has kept him going despite the setbacks and even criticism from people. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? To show no fear is the best skill of all. Mark thought it was congratulations, but it was Kittel hitting him on the back in frustration. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. . I do love the sport because its a crescendo sport. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. I often moan about Kirby myself, but I don't. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . Nah, Harmon is clued up. Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more. . You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. Brentford today angry guy in grey car can't see why he should wait till it's safe to overtake hoots horn, shouts abuse and 100 yards later I'm in front again anyway. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. You must log in or register to reply here. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? Kirby has more than two decades as a. Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. And if you ever thought the job of the commentator was easy, think again, with the ability to multi-task a key skill for anyone working in live television. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! You have a sound wall battle, where theyre shoving one way and were shoving the other while trying to sound calm and interesting on the commentary when actually what you want to do is knock someone out! CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. At least he can string a sentence together and he seems to bring good comments out of Backstedt. Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? And, he is right about it. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. It easy to forget that before this tour Mark Cavendish, the greatest of all great sprinters, had never beaten Marcel Kittel in a head-to-head. We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. Log in or register to join the conversation. It is irretrievable. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. @DeGendtThomas, guanyador de la primera etapa de la #VoltaCatalunya 2019. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. This is the video I showed Trinity School in Lewisham this morning. We have Sean Kelly, Stephen Roche, Magnus Backstedt, Dean Downing, Rob Hayles and David Harmon (who although is not the best at least it seems he is really doing some research and background checks on the riders and teams - he is clearly learning from Kelly as they sit in the box)but Kirby doesnt even do any background research. I would rather have the sound off than listen to his pathetic attempts to link words and phrases together rather than comment on the racing (as opposed to being able to identify riders) about which he knows precious little. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. Eurosports commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. Its a massive operation. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. The atmosphere fills up with buzz from moment to moment that enthusiasm pushes the words out of the heart. I remember being impressed during the Giro at his ability to identify riders. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. Twaddle. Apologies it's in super annoying meme form (we couldn't find the originalsource) but this is too good not too share! One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. It's their commentators or silence. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. He is thinking Champs Elysees. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast and what is lost from these two very different broadcasting scenarios. Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. Ive been up the Galibier. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? It's embarrassing now. Get the latest race news, results, commentary, and tech, delivered to your inbox. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. Agreed. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? De Gendt, ganador de la primera etapa de la Volta 2019. PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. And hes trying to improve them. you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. CK:I think not many people will notice. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. For no reason. The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? A new bike is coming very soon! Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo and more Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo, Tortec and more Vitus launch three bikes for cyclo-cross season. Baseless. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. Tom Owen vents his fury after cycling blogger highlights verbal abuse on Box Hill, Geraint Thomas returns as domestique in experienced nine-man line-up, Summit finishes dominate opening fortnight with potentially pivotal time trial in final week, The best of the gear that's dropped into RCUK over the last couple of weeks, One carbon bike and two alloy models for 2016 'cross campaign from Chain Reaction Cycles' in-house bike brand. When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. You can sound like youre a genius, with an incredible memory, Kirby says. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. Tel 01225 588855. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? I quite like Kirby. At Eurosport, because the producer maynot necessarily be listening to the Englishcommentary, theyll be occasions when I goto Sean and say, so what do you think of Sagan? and hell start mulling it over and responding and then all of a sudden well get a producing lining up a cue pointin his ear, and hell have to switch from his usual, slow voice to speaking very quickly and wrapping up his point in five seconds for no apparent reason to the viewer. But Mark Cavendish says no: what the track does is make you think fast, it makes you think within a very tight set of circumstances. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. That is the way it appears. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Thats when it down to you and not the riders.. He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. There used to be a 35 metre rule which seems to be flouted these days. You sit there, its often quite quiet, and you get brought an exotic meal like a guacamole sandwich. Riders having to get close to a motorbike just to take a corner.
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